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Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

Posted on: October 25, 2011 3:15 pm
Edited on: October 25, 2011 3:19 pm
By Gary Parrish

Nearly every move made in the crazy world of conference realignment is rooted in football and television markets. Sad as it is, basketball has little to do with it. We've been over this before. But -- as I've also written before -- that doesn't mean basketball isn't affected in a major way, and the Big 12's decision to pull West Virginia from the Big East to replace Missouri -- which is headed to the SEC -- probably enhanced the league's basketball product even if the league now makes less regional sense than it did before.

Here's what you need to know about the past decade:

----- MISSOURI -----

NCAA Touranment appearances: 5
Round of 32: 4
Sweet 16: 2
Elite Eight: 2
Final Four: 0

----- WEST VIRGINIA -----

NCAA Tournament appearances: 6
Round of 32: 5
Sweet 16: 4
Elite Eight: 2
Final Four: 1

So over the past 10 years it's reasonable -- and accurate -- to conclude West Virginia has been the better basketball program, and it's historically better, too. This could obviously change going forward depending on when Bob Huggins retires and who replaces him. But right now, at this point, losing Missouri and replacing it with West Virginia isn't a bad basketball move for the Big 12. At all. Plus, it puts best buddies Bob Huggins and Frank Martin in the same league, and that just sounds like fun.
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Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posted on: October 26, 2011 5:45 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

From a scientific stance, this is a very poorly written argument.  Basing a full review of a basketball program's value and accomplishments on a 10 year record based solely on performance over a 3 week period in March doesn't begin to fully access the true value of each school's program.  Are you really suggesting that the results of two Elite 8 games determines the success of the program?

I think it would be VERY difficult to make a case that Mizzou or WVU is significantly better than the other.  They both have very solid basketball programs.  Not top 10 in the country but certainly in the 15 to 30 range.  Both would be valued by any conference as an above average basketball and/or football school.  The difference is very clear though!  Mizzou has a much larger TV audience and a better academic reputation.  Those are two areas where Mizzou wins easily and thus they have the SEC's approval (rightfully so).

Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 5:43 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

Also...if you want FACTS...

Compare the FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD vs. THE BASKETBALL BOARD.....  same title about West Virginia moving to the BIG12 and MIZZOU to the SEC.....

There are about 2,000 posts on the football page for the same article....

There are about 20 posts on the basketball page for the same article...

This is why KANSAS will get screwed....NOBODY CARES ABOUT COLLEGE BASKETBALL except Jayhawk least not until March!

GO CARDINALS TOMORROW NIGHT..... GAME 7 WINNERS....Alllen Craig MVP of the World Series

Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 5:40 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

Jaxjhawk... its not just the people in KC and St. Louis watching Mizzou play...what about every other SEC game that is on?   The SEC gains two TOP 30 ratings in St. Louis and when you're over in KC enjoying some Gates BBQ and they have the LSU/ALABAMA game on the television...the SEC wins....this is what this is all about...>>  EYEBALLS.


The SEC receives $0.10 for every television tuned into an SEC game in a NON-SEC state.

The SEC receives $1.00 for every television tuned into an SEC game in a SEC SCHOOL state.   (Hello Mizzou)

Do you see the reason to adding MIZZOU buddy?   Even if you're not watching'll still be putting money into Mizzous pockets like it or not!!!!!!

You're being left behind over money...and I agree with you that it traditions and rivalries can be thrown away so quickly?   100 years should mean more to these schools than a couple extra million dollars per year???   

Texas is to blame for this...they looked at leaving the conference as far back as 2009...2010.... and now 2011....who's to say that if the LONGHORN network fails, TEXAS will look to move again and tap into the PAC12 market.   KU will most likely get screwed again in 6 years...maybe sooner.... we shall see.

If you also think that KU won't play Mizzou in either basketball or football in the future...time heals ....they'll resume playing in a couple of matter what Bill Self says...

I don't know how you could argue that West Virginia, TCU, Louisville, and CInncy are better for the BIG12 than Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, and Texas A&M..... just doesn't look right!

Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posted on: October 26, 2011 5:38 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

jealousy isn't going to get Kansas a decent conference affiliation when the Big 12 falls apart.  Stop being ridiculous and just accept that the college landscape is changing.  Unfortunately, Kansas is probably going to be left out.

Since: Mar 2, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 4:51 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

I saw somebody write, when Mizzery is playing Alabama or LSU both KC and St. Louis will be watching. You have got to be crazy, who wants to watch Mizzou get beat by 40, those channels will go right back to the channels that they have been watching for 30 years. No matter how long missou plays in that conference they will become the 12th or 13th best team in a 16 team league. Mississippi will still beat them and they will fight with Vandy, Kentucky and M State to see who will be the top tiers homecoming game. And just like the last 90 years, they still will not have won any championships.

Since: Sep 25, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 4:45 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

I know this is a hoops review but I have two links that compare the football programs.  This will make a nice addendum to the basketball statistics.  When you do a side by side analysis (football)....there are many similarities.

Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 4:12 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

I'm ignorant? Hmm. Missouri brings Kansas City and St. Louis to the SEC for huge revenue potential. WVU brings...? This one isn't even close. There's a reason the SEC denied WVU's request to join. 

Since: Nov 23, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:45 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

All of you who think basketball is on equal footing as football or size of markets do not matter are naive and just bitter your conference is degressing.  Though WV is not Missouri, they are still the best option out there for the Big 12.  At the end of the day the Big 12 loses Texas A&M, Missouri, Nebraska and Colorado and replaces them with TCU and WV and or Louisville.  The conference re-stabilizes, but it hurts the conference talent and ratings in the long run.

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:29 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

Ah Zonacat, just another ignorant west coaster. 

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 2:27 pm

Who's better in hoops: Mizzou or WVU?

Way to be original. There's already such a poll in the CFB section.

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