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Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

Posted on: December 30, 2011 11:33 pm
Edited on: December 31, 2011 8:33 am
By Gary Parrish

Memphis sophomore Joe Jackson is "confused, unhappy and not having fun," and transferring out of the program "is an option" before the start of the second semester, Jackson's former summer coach Eric Robinson told late Friday.

Jackson will not play Saturday night against Charlotte.

He's supposed to meet with Memphis coach Josh Pastner again on Sunday.

"My opinion is he might not wear a uniform in Memphis again," Robinson told by phone. "It's nobody's fault. Josh has a system [but] I don't know where Joe fits in it, and Joe said he's confused, unhappy and not having fun. And I always say if you're not happy you need to do something about it.

"They're trying to work things out, and I hope they can work things out," Robinson added. "But if not, Joe and the Tigers might have to part ways."

This development comes one day after Jackson was omitted from the starting lineup for the first time this season. The tiny combo guard started the Tigers' first 11 games -- sometimes at point, other times off the ball -- but struggled with consistency while Memphis limped to a 6-5 record. The Tigers improved to 7-5 on Thursday with a win over Robert Morris, but Jackson did not start that game. He instead came off the bench and went scoreless in 21 minutes. Now, Robinson said, transferring "could be a possibility."

Jackson is averaging 11.9 points and 3.1 assists this season.

He's a former McDonald's All-American and was among Pastner's first high-profile signings.

Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: January 1, 2012 4:21 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

This UM/UK crap will go on for a long time. Cal did a lot of good here at Memphis, but he left us high and dry. There were no players left on the 2010 squad that would have started for any top school, except Elliot Williams. He transferred from Duke and no one stated that Cal injured him. It was stated that he played that year hurt and he did.

The reason everyone here hates Cal is because he left us no recruits, and he took all of them to UK.  His actions regarding Rose almost got us put on probation. For all intents and purposes, we were on a year of probation - we lost an entire recruiting class.  The headcoach knows who flys on the team plane and who does not. He was aware of all of it. There were a number of other allegations, but no one cares when you are winning. It is completely understood that the players were coming here for him more than the University, so what ? I don't remeber too many of Gilespie's players being kept once Cal got there. I believe Cal kept 3.  The point is that regardless of how great UK's history is, your recruiting down shortly after pitino left. Tubby won a title with Pitino's guys, and he was fired a few years later. Every school needs a to recruiter and some schools need them more than others. UM is one of these schools.

Players play for the coaches today more than they do the University. I would say that UNC might be the lone exception here. Uk, NC, Duke, all of these type schools draw top tier talent, no doubt. However, let coach K retire and watch Duke suffer. All schools need a top coach to recruit top talent. It is imperative that you win with your talent as well.  We had Cal, and we let him spin his wheels in mediocrity for 4-5 years. Heck, we threw the guy a parade after he won the NIT.  He was fortunate to land the Laurenburg prep team, otherwise Memphis would probably still suck and Cal would still be here or somewhere else. He definitely would not be at UK. You guys wanted no part of him just a few years ago. However, after several sub par years you came after the hottest recruiter in college. Good 4 UK and bad for Memphis.

I personally wouldn't have cared that Cal left except for two facts : he flirted with several schools every single year he was here (while we were rewarding him for being average) and he failed to bring the city a title due to his stubborness.

Pastner is not a bad coach, but he isn't a real good one at this point either. He had to make a splash in recruiting, and he did. He brought an entire AAU starting squad in a year ago to get this thing going, and he is dealing with all of the crap that came with it. Pastner is making adjustments and is getting better. He needs another couple of years before anyone decides that he is a terrible coach. It is hard coaching a bunch of guys that are careless with the ball. Several of the guards average 3-4 turnovers every game - you can't bench everyone. Too many me first moments from too many guys have this team a little rattled at this point. Joe is immature, and hopefully he will grow out of it. We need him to be an elite player for UM.

Since: Jun 13, 2009
Posted on: January 1, 2012 3:27 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

I'm not going to predict the outcome of this but I will ask a question.  Why are competent reporters listening to a "former" coach.  This guy is not an advisor to JJ.  Several other people's opinions mean more to JJ.  If you want more accurate information you might want to talk to his family members.  For JJ to play anywhere else a whole bunch of other factors come into play.  Like I said before, I am not going to predict the outcome of this, but January 4 is the Memphis/ut game.  Let's see what happens then.

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: January 1, 2012 12:14 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

Elliot Williams getting hurt is Cal's fault? Wall and Bledsoe hadn't committed to UM and Xavier didn't go to UK when he left UM. This happened 3 years ago! Move on UM fans! Stop blaming your problems on Cal and start looking at your coach that can't coach!

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: January 1, 2012 12:47 am

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

What top tier talent are you referring to?  I only remember 9 scholarship players, 8 without Elliot, who was a gift.  Even he was half crippled most of the season.

If you don't think Cal left the cupboard bare, even to the point of trying to steal the sno-cone machine, you are a delusional UK fan. 

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: January 1, 2012 12:32 am

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

I love how every UM fan says they were left with nothing when Cal left. You do realize that Rose and Tyreke and Cousins were only coming there bc of Cal. Pastner's first team still had the most talent in C-USA by far and Elliot Williams, a first round NBA draft pick! And Pastner did nothing but lose quick in the NIT with that team. When you lose a great coach you don't get great players especially when you're not a great program! That would be obvious to everyone but delusional UM fans who think they're top tier but they're nothing but a mid major. Face the facts and realize your place in CBB!

Since: Apr 20, 2009
Posted on: December 31, 2011 9:41 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

Ummmm...Derrick Williams had a lot to do with that. Seems they actually had some players left over after the coaching change, unlike Pastner, who was left with thanks to your scumbag coach. And Memphis almost beat them just the same.

This year is different...and I was talking about this year anyway. This year's Arizona team is made of Miller's recruits. This year's team isn't as good. Memphis has played a brutal schedule and they haven't won as many as I would like, but they aren't as bad as their record may indicate.

I'm not bashing Arizona or Sean Miller. I'm just tired of the Pastner bashing when he's doing as well (perhaps better) as any new coach in the country. If Memphis had loaded up on early season cupcakes some of these idiots would be bashing him for that as well. It never stops, but hey, it's Memphis so I should be used to it by now, right?

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2011 8:50 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

Ummm Tiger Dogger...didn't Sean Miller take Arizona to the Elite Eight last year? So Sean Miller has accomplished much more than Pastner and UM in the same amount of time. Your comment is ignorant

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2011 8:50 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

Ummm Tiger Dogger...didn't Sean Miller take Arizona to the Elite Eight last year? So Sean Miller has accomplished much more than Pastner and UM in the same amount of time. Your comment is ignorant

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: December 31, 2011 3:55 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

You obviously missed the game last year when Will Barton was benched and spent the entire game slumping in his chair with both arms fully extended over the backs of the adjacent chairs, not even watching the game and definitely not cheering the win -- which we got without him. I would never make it as a DI coach, 'cause that would have been his last game if it were my decision.

But yeah, he's the best scorer and rebounder on this poor-shooting, afraid-to-rebound team. He's also responsible for half the turnovers, generally. Between Joe and Will, we can get into double-digit turnovers on most nights. That kind of prima donna attitude is usually accepted with the bitter taste it leaves when the production is like Will's has been this year. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's reality. Teams and fans want to win (don't we all remember a certain sleazy, used-car-salesman-type with shady friends we used to tolerate for that very reason?)

The reality is, teams win championships. You can't have a one-on-one mindset and play team ball. You can't push your defensive stats up near the top with that kind of mentality. You might get drafted high (and I think that's more important to both these guys), but your team won't benefit -- not like it could.

Watch these guys on defense. Listen to them at the post-game press conference. Tell me whether you encounter more "I couldn't have done it without my teammates" or more watching your man score after you gave up on playing defense. These guys just don't gell. That's about the size of it. Too many egos and handlers, not enough coachability on the players parts or coaching experience on JP's part. He'll learn, don't know if they will. It's still a work in progress.

Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2011 3:10 pm

Transferring a 'possibility' for Memphis' Jackson

I disagree with the criticism of the Bartons.  Will has definitely improved from last year.  He is the leading scorer and rebounder (he isn't a big).  Does he make mistakes?  Of course, but if it were not for his play, Memphis would not win a game.  First you say he plays the entire game and then say he pouts when benched.  It can't bet both ways.  I have not seen any pouting and when you are scoring and rebounding, you stay in the game.  The same can not be said of Jackson--this is what the article was about--not the Bartons. 

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