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Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:10 pm
Edited on: January 4, 2012 3:11 pm
By Matt Norlander

We're in the throes of conference play now, so the podcast takes this opportunity to share the best and worst of the college hoops season so far. How can Syracuse be overrated? Parrish tells you how. To be clear: this is the opinion of Gary Parrish and Gary Parrish only.

I think this is a top-two or top-three podcast we've recorded. Just a good energy and pace and dialogue. Plus, I can't get enough of the way Parrish says "dribbler." If only I could share with you the things that didn't make the cut. Today's podcast was interrupted by profanity, a mailman and a bad Internet connection. It was also delayed in going to publishing. But we're here, and you should love this one. 

  • From the beginning: Parrish will be on TV tonight. Goodman will not. Parrish compares himself to Jude Law.
  • 1:52: Michigan State, Wisconsin and that clock controversy that should have never been. We start with Wisconsin. Should we trust them still?
  • 5:22: On Michigan State, a team with 14 straight wins and angling at a No. 2 seed right now.
  • 9:04: A "Falling Down" reference, which means this podcast rules.
  • 9:12: Who's the best point guard in the country right now?
  • 11:49: The Joe Jackson situation which almost became a massive issue at Memphis over the weekend.
  • 17:39: We transition to Jarnell Stokes, who could be playing for Tennessee soon after transferring there. Parrish and Goodman make the case he should wait until next fall.
  • 22:04: Our midseason awards will be up on the blog tomorrow, so we tease each other and basically insult each other's selections at the end of the podcast.

You can listen to the College Basketball Podcast every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. The podcasts are posted here and simultaneously through iTunes (link below). Each Wednesday national writers Jeff Goodman and Gary Parrish hop on to banter and bicker. Mondays and Fridays are reserved for the most prominent voices in and around the game. Here's the iTunes subcription link. We also have an RSS feed for you to track. I don't believe they are making Zunes anymore, but nonetheless, I've been instructed to link you on how to listen via that device, too.

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Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: January 6, 2012 2:09 pm

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

Wow is this how easy it is to become an analyst these days. I guess you can suggest dumb notions out and get paid. Put Syracuse up against other top teams. For me the only other teams comparable to Syracuse are UNC, Kentucky and Ohio St.

Let's start with Kentucky: All we ever hear is that Syracuse does not have a superstar to take over a game and have someone who will take the final shot. Please tell me who this is for Kentucky: Terrance Jones? who is more inconsistent than the tenth man coming off the Syracuse bench. Michael Kidd? Is doing well in his freshman year but certainly do not think he is one going to create for himself for the last shot.

Ohio St: Please tell me where all the offense is going to come from when they play good teams. I know Sullinger, Buford and Thomas will score but other than those three this team is very limited on the offensive end. Kraft has the potential to knock down shots but he is certainly a defense first pg.

UNC: This is the only team that I believe a case can be made for of being ahead of Syracuse. I know they lost at Kentucky but if that is a neutral court UNC wins that game. They are loaded with offensive talent. The only question with this team is defense. The are one of the worst teams I have seen this year in covering the three.

Syracuse is not overrated and they will get a number one seed in the tournament and unless something happens to all ten they play they will make a deep run.

Since: Jan 27, 2009
Posted on: January 5, 2012 5:29 pm

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

Gary Parrish once again proves why he got DENIED from entrance into SU....His journalism skills are about as bad as a high school seniors...First he says the #1 teams is over-rated (yet 30 of 31 coaches voted them no.1), which ok i understand but then he doesnt even put one factual reason why he believes SU is over-rated....What kinda of integrity does that show? Ur a disgrace Gary

Since: Jun 9, 2011
Posted on: January 5, 2012 3:28 pm

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

To teamco I disagree with u that Syracuse doesn't have star power they have about 7guys right now that if were on a diff team that ran the offense thru them they would be considered stArs or go to guys. I can promise you 5\6 ppl on there team will be in the NBA over the next 3years. But unlock the other top teams this team doesn't care about padding their stats to improve their draft stocks, they care about doing whatever it takes to win games. Guys on ESPN are finally watching SU games n realizing that SU does have individual star power n they're depth makes it look deceiving to ppl like on this site who just look at box scores an stats and already had a predetermined notation of who the top teams were before the season so they will call anyone but unc n uk overrated. Even if SU went undefeated winning by an avg of 23pts a game they wud still say unc was better. It doesn't matter just look at what the former coaches and players who are analysts who actually know this sport and they will all say SU is number 1 n it's not even close right now

Since: Feb 21, 2011
Posted on: January 5, 2012 3:00 pm

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

Don't know what Parrish or Goodman or using as their criteria to base their overrated assertion on since they give no reasoning, therefore leave to assume it has something to do with the usual "star" power and national hype factor, or lack thereof. Probably the main reason most analysts and fans lay the "overrated" tag on Syracuse is because they don't have "star" power. The program doesn't have glamour names attendant with hyperbole the national press churns out for UNC, Ohio State or Kentucky. They aren't a team laden with future NBA players, though Kris Joseph, Dion Waiters and Fab Melo look like good bets (if not this year for the two underclassmen then a year or two from now).

Alternatively, if an assessment of who is number one at any given time is based on the quality of a team's play, who they play, how many of their games they win, the quality of wins and loses, you have to go with Syracuse at this time. What they do have is ten top quality players with no dropoff in quality of play when substituting. They are very deep and they can play at a very high level for 40 minutes, as a result. There are clearly players coming off the bench that would be starting at almost any other D1 school. And all the players have bought into the concept of role-playing and sitting when they 'other guy' has the hot hand.

Star power? Syracuse has little of it. Talent, depth and committment, Syracuse has riches in abundance.

Will they lose this year? Yes, take a look at the last seven or eight games Syracuse has to play this year. Their schedule keeps ramping up with those last half-dozen or so games against virtually all top ten programs- hey, it's the Big East, still some very good teams there. Want an immediate gut-check? Watch this Saturday's game against Marquette, should be a very good  test, as the Golden Eagles are a tough, scrappy team.

When a loss or two does come, I'm sure the nay-sayers will be shouting "I told you so!" from the rafters. But make no mistake, come March, Syracuse will be a number 1 seed and will go very deep into the NCAA tournament with as good a chance , if not a better, than any of the other top two or three programs, of coming away with a national championship.

Since: Jan 5, 2012
Posted on: January 5, 2012 3:53 am

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

When the first paragraph told me Syracuse is overrated and Parrish was going to tell me how, I was curious as to what he would say. As a diehard fan I was interested, but to my disappointment there was no reasoning for the selection other than him saying if the NCAA tourney was right now he probably wouldn't pick them to win. Compelling argument there and getting your cohost to somewhat agree (another ignorant "expert" who said Indiana was overrated by 15-20 spots???) hardly justifies a headline. So thank you for an extreme waste of time and I hope you can find the time to do your job, watch a few games of the teams you're analyzing and then maybe have an actual justifiable argument. 

Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: January 4, 2012 6:06 pm

Podcast: Midseason awards; Syracuse is overrated

With the season they've had so far, if Indiana falls out of the top 25 it means they cratered the rest of the Big Ten season. Even the biggest pessimist would have a hard time predicting much less than a .500 conference record, no? So it seems a little suspect to say that No. 12 IU is overrated by 20, or even 15, spots. Maybe Goodman thinks that IU is overrated by 15-20 spots in the Top 25 (and 1)? Perhaps. Seventh is higher than I've seen IU ranked by anyone else. But then Goodman himself contributed to IU's spot in those rankings. So he's saying that he himself overrated the Hoosiers just a few days ago? Is he confused? Or just intentionally antagonistic?

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