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The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

Posted on: February 13, 2012 4:34 pm
Edited on: February 13, 2012 4:42 pm
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By Gary Parrish

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Associated Press poll: I was gonna spend this space Poll Attacking anybody who voted for Creighton because the Bluejays shouldn't be on anybody's ballot, plain and simple. Plus, I warned voters Saturday against ranking Creighton. And I hate it when people don't listen to me. So I sat down at this computer ready to tear apart the eight voters who voted for Creighton. But then I got a Tweet from a reader.
@GaryParrishCBS Pete Gilbert needs a good poll attacking. Wisconsin unranked, Murray St. left in the top 10.
Needless to say, I shifted gears.

What the F, Pete Gilbert?

How can anybody not have Wisconsin ranked?

The Badgers are 19-6 overall, 8-4 in the Big Ten, and they've won seven of their past eight with the lone loss coming by single-digits to No. 6 Ohio State. Five of their six overall losses are to teams that are currently ranked. The Badgers are top five at KenPom.com, top 25 at CollegeRPI.com, No. 11 in our Top 25 (and one) and on 64 of the 65 AP ballots. In other words, pretty much everybody (and every computer) in this world thinks Wisconsin belongs in the top 25 ... except Pete Gilbert, who omitted the Badgers but put Murray State in the top 10.

Now I don't wanna spend too much time on Murray State.

I'm going there this weekend.

I wanna be loved.

But I will point out that the Racers have zero wins over currently ranked teams and a home loss to Tennessee State, which is ranked 141st at CollegeRPI.com and 184th at KenPom.com. Murray State is good, no question. But top-10 good? That's a stretch. And at least 15 spots better than Wisconsin? That's a bigger stretch.

So get it together, Pete.

Let's not do this again next Monday.

Coaches poll: And now to Creighton ...

Because the same Bluejays who got 20 points in the AP poll got 30 points in the coaches poll, meaning the coaches are 50 percent sillier than the writers, which sounds about right, actually. For those who haven't been keeping track, Creighton stopped making shots a little more than a week ago and began what is now a three-game losing streak. So Greg McDermott's team is 21-5 with two wins over top 25 teams and four losses to teams that are currently unranked. They're probably gonna lose their league by two games. They're not headed the right direction. Bottom line, there was a time and place to be ranking Creighton. But now is not that time. And here is not that place. So let's let the Bluejays start shooting better than 30 percent from 3-point range again before we start considering them for top 25 ballots again. Deal?
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Since: Jan 19, 2010
Posted on: February 17, 2012 2:59 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

Again guys, Wisconsin is over rated sub par border line top 25 team. That doesn't mean that they can't beat anybody on any given night, but they let a poor offensive team like MSU look like a top 10 team last night, end of story.



Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:37 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

I like how I've noticed some Big 10 fans crying lately because they feel their conference is beating up on each other this year.  We'll, if you want to be as good as the Big East, it comes with the territory.  The Big East deals with this every year. 
And Just who have Pitsburgh UConn and the others been beating up on this year? St. Johns? Depaul? Providence?




Since: Mar 5, 2010
Posted on: February 15, 2012 1:23 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

One of these days were going to get back to letting straight men decide what an attractive woman is and letting people that actually watch basketball games decide the polls.  Till then we're stuck with paper thin woman with no booty or top side wearing ridiculous things and teams with 0 wins against current top 25 teams ranked in the top 25. 



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: February 15, 2012 10:44 am
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

Well, ya know, Wiscy is waaaay up there in cheeeese country, and it's reeeally cold.  Maybe Pete Gilbert just doesn't remember that Wiscy even has a team.  After all, Wisconsin is pretty far away from Maryland.  Gilbert is probably so busy eating his crab cakes and trying to find an excuse to rank his 14-10 Maryland Terps without looking like a total homer.  

Gilbert's ballot is strange, as he gives four teams, not counting number one Kentucky, their highest ranking of any ballot.  Those teams are Ohio State, Georgetown, Notre Dame, and Mississippi State.  It looks like he has Gonzaga ranked higher than anyone outside of the Spokane market.  We'll call Georgetown a homer pick here, due to its proximity to Baltimore.  

I'm sure good ol' Pete is a great guy and all, but he might want to pay a bit more attention on the rest of his ballots.   



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 9:56 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

Not having Wisconsin ranked is really, really dumb.  But it would be a miracle if Gary could probably pry his lips off Bo Ryan's behind long enough to take a step back and see that ranking them #11 as he does is equally moronic.  They should be in the 15-20 range.



Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 7:09 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

yea but the big east also has alot of bottom feeders to beat up on. theres like 7 sorry teams in the big east. i dont cry about the big 10 beating each other up....thats what good conferences do......the big 10 has been doing it for years....one thing about the big 10, is the home court advantage.....its hard to play on the road in the big 10......outside of nebraska and penn st, any team can win at home in the big 10.....i wouldnt be scared of going to rutgers, s florida, depaul, providence or seton hall.....thats just my opinion though....i could care less though, because once march madness starts....all the conferences, home games, rivalries..are out the door.....when march comes teams better be prepared to play....whether its a high scoring game...or a defensive game....the object is to win....whether its pretty or ugly.......and anyone comparing michigan st to wisky is an idiot...sparty plays good defense and is always one of the best rebounding teams in the nation, who likes to run after a defensive rebound.....sparty doesnt try and control the game by cutting down possesions in a game by running clock from the get go......its as if wisky doesnt enjoy playing the game of basketball...they try and get the game over as quick as possible...imagine if it was the old days with no shot clock....bo ryan opening up the game running the four corner offense.....winning an 18-14 slugfest.



Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 6:23 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

I think Wisconsin is overrated, but they certainly deserve to be ranked.  Except for MSU and Ohio State, the entire conference is over rated.  I like how I've noticed some Big 10 fans crying lately because they feel their conference is beating up on each other this year.  We'll, if you want to be as good as the Big East, it comes with the territory.  The Big East deals with this every year. 



Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:09 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

SF3
Not sure this is the place, but ihave seen several people comment on the what rankings the selection committee uses.  What do you think of ESPN's BPI Rankings?  Do you think they will gain any relevance with the selection committee?  I for one think they will.
Well if they do that certainly hurts Wisconsin and also the Big Ten with all of its "ugly" defense-is-important games. My recollection of the BPI was that it  somewhat punished low scoring good defensive efforts. Those are traditional Wisconsin and Big Ten triats. (obviously you can't win by a huge margin in a low scoring (relative) defensive battle. We could easily see a great defensive battle between MSU and Wisconsin Thursday night. Should either school be "punished" for a 55-52 score simply because other teams win by a 96-80 score. The BPI seemed to do that. Maybe teh BPI should give points for holding an opponent to under 40% shooting?



Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 4:59 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

"but they will lose this game too, to another over rated B1G Team."


sort of the way syracuse was over rated the last 2 years? 



Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 4:55 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Not ranking Wisconsin is dumb

"This (lack of respect for Wisconsin) occurs every year --either at the start of the season, or someplace in the middle of it.  Yet, in the end, Wisconsin is always in the NCAA tourney, and is always a force to be reckoned with (sweet 16 this past season)."

a force really? in the tourney? im a big 10 fan and wisconsin sucks come tourney time......how many times has bo ryan beat a higher seed in the tourney? sweet 16 is a force to be reckoned with? no wonder why the big 10 has people hating them.....celebrating a sweet 16 is for MAC school's or mid-majors........a sweet 16 is considered a down year in e lansing or duke or UNC, or ohio st...etc etc.

"  but they actually do have the best road-record in the conference right now (9-2). "

who have they beat that are good?  illinois? nebraska? penn st? minnesota? purdue? UW milwaukee?

according to their schedule they have only played 8 away games......6-2 with losses to UNC and michigan.....lets see how they do in e lansing and columbass.

wisconsin basketball is the minnesota twins of college basketball.....may win in regular season, but once the postseason starts........they dont play very well.....cornell, xavier, davidson, and UNLV are some mid-majors who have ended wisconsins season the past few years.....not exactly great teams beating them.  so to say nobody wants to play them come tourney time i find laughable. bo ryan fails to coach his teams come tourney...you need to change gameplans.....change up at halftimes of games......every game should be a new gameplan come the tourney but bo decides to keep playing his 1950's style and too stubborn to change up in the dance.......this year will be no different.....maybe if they get lucky and make the sweet 16 again, they can party in madison like its 2000 all over again.....we all know beating sparty is bo ryans national championship.


and i dont want to hear about bo ryan coaching with what he has.......he recruits them big goofy guys......tom izzo is known for winning with less....kids WANT to play for izzo....really who wants to play for a coach who takes after the gene hackman gameplan right out of hoosiers....dribble the ball and pass for 30 seconds before a shot is taken........lets not forget how they are well known for flopping also........as long as bo is coach wisky will never sniff a final 4.....something the previous coach did in 2000......college basketball regular season means nothing....all about march!


so go ahead wisky fans and remind me how bo has a winning record vs izzo..or how many big 10 championships he has won...like i care......when bo makes 6 final 4's and wins a national championship THEN maybe ill start putting him in the same sentence as tom izzo.     


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