Hey guys this guy could be a nice sleeper pick up late in the draft, numbers are pretty good during his work out. Adrien Robinson 15 reps. REALLY?  Don't sound like a Steeler TE to me.....  Nyb, I'm a little surprised with that response. You're judging a player based on their bench press numbers? You can always increase you're strength. If invited to the combine he would have been first in the vertical, first in the broad jump, 4th In the three cone and middle of the pack in the short shuttle. Ran the 40 around 4.55, not bad. Imagine a TE with that kind of vertical in the red zone to go up and get jump balls.

.....  Nyb, I'm a little surprised with that response. You're judging a player based on their bench press numbers? You can always increase you're strength. If invited to the combine he would have been first in the vertical, first in the broad jump, 4th In the three cone and middle of the pack in the short shuttle. Ran the 40 around 4.55, not bad. Imagine a TE with that kind of vertical in the red zone to go up and get jump balls.

Roc,

Yeah maybe jumped to conclusions, it was more or less predicated on the sucky suckfest of blocking that Ben gets on blitzes, Sure he can be a target in the red zone, but he may need to chip a LB and 15 reps is wimpy. Yes he can improve, and a lot of my anger is still percolating from Airbrains has his no brains schemes.

I hope John Martin makes it back to Pittsburgh, we need OL that can get out ino the next level. Foster and Legursky are marginal backups, if we had a few more guys like Pouncey and Gilbert who were more athletic, I think Todd Haley could institute someting other than trips right bunch on two.

ny

7th round, 3 picks, a lot of guys I like late in this draft

If the Steelers get 3 7th round picks maybe they can use one on a kicker

Nyb, here's Gronk's numbers at his pro day just to put things in perspective. Gronkowski (6-foot-6 1/4, 258 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.65 seconds with the wind and 4.73 seconds against the wind. He had a 33 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot, 11-inch broad jump, a 4.47-second short shuttle and a 7.18-second three-cone drill, and he stood on his bench-press number from the combine. He did all the position drills and looked good catching the ball and running routes. He had just two drops. Adrien only has 1 year starting experience, where Gronk was more experienced coming in.

If the Steelers get 3 7th round picks maybe they can use one on a kicker

I thought about this and don't mind the idea. That said, we really have to know what we're doing since Heinz Field isn't just another stadium for kickers. We need to look at more than just percentages and leg strength. I know the latter is what we as fans covet collectively, but Kris Brown, who had a strong leg, failed miserably kicking in Heinz Field, while Jeff Reed who by no means had a strong leg did pretty well here for about seven years. That's pretty confusing considering I would think a stronger leg could launch kicks capable of cutting through more turbulent wind.

Even though draftable kickers are money more often than not for most teams, I'd feel more comfortable bringing in two or three undrafted guys (which is how we acquired Reed) and letting them show what they're made of.

I am with Demo, it's not the leg strength so much as a guy who can kick in the wind and off a chit surface.

Walter Football, man we got him a better 3rd round pick. SUre Mendenhall is an unkown, but with DL, LB, and OL being targets., RB is a luxury pick. The only guy I like is Isiah Pead, he has us taking

1, HIghtower
2. Zeitler with Braondon Thompson still on the board, tough call. Zeilter is a 3rd rounder like Urbik, Mitchell Schwartz still on the baord too.
3. Bernard Pierce RB Rutgers. Okay the pick before that is Isiah Pead, but Brandon Brooks is still available, along with Casey Heyward, Brian Quick, and Shea McClellan still available, I do not like the choice.
4. Akeem HIcks.  Seems like more of a project than a 4th rounder, still available are George Illoka, Aaron Henry, and Audie Cole.
5. Brandon Lindsey.  NO WAY JOSE, not with Kyle Wilbur still on the board. ANd I think the OT from Troy was still available, James Brown.

Hey, check this RB out. A MJD clone. I saw his name mentioned on twitter. He averages 5.0 a carry and has 80 catch's for 600+ yards.

Bobby Rainey a RB out of Western Kentucky

Speaking of TEs, I kinda like how Orson Charles put up 35 reps on the bench press at the combine. He didn't run, which was kinda weird, but are we open to picking him in the second given certain circumstances? He's a good blocker and a great athlete. Would improve on David Johnson and provide insurance in case Saunders just becomes too much.

Bobby Rainey a RB out of Western Kentucky

Rarebreed, I watched some highlights of him last night. Not sure about being a MJD clone, doesn't seem as thick. He reminds more of Amos Zereoue.

Should they draft Hightower, I believe they will, how much will he contribute his rookie season?

As a Western Kentucky Alum, I can say that Bobby Rainey has been the offense for WKU for three seasons. He is much tougher than Amos Zeroe though calling him MJD isn't quite right either. He was sucessful against SEC and some Big 10 competition while running behind an overmatched OL with no passing attack whatsoever. I would give him a look in the 7th or undrafted (maybe higher as I haven't seen his pro day marks) but he is a smart kid that wants the ball. 

He is much togher than Amos

I agree with that, he looks tougher but his movement reminded me of Zeroue.

I really think finding a new RB is a key in the next draft. Mendy is probably done and Redman, Dwyer, and Clay are all grinding downhill backs with no moves. I know Barron Batch was impressive last pre-season but they have no idea what they have with him and they need a good running game to be two dimensional. Who are some guys you all think would make good Steelers? I would say they will grab one between the 3rd and 5th depending on how the Mike Wallace thing shakes out.

RE: Rarebreed, I watched some highlights of him last night. Not sure about being a MJD clone

Agreed, I should have used the word type instead of clone but you get the idea.
With 3 7th round picks, I think he might be worth one of them.

Josh Robinson, Combine’s fastest man, looks like a first-round pick

The dust has settled from the NFL Scouting Combine, and it’s becoming clear that few players improved their draft stock as much as Josh Robinson, a cornerback from Central Florida.

With an official time of 4.33 seconds in the 40-yard dash, Robinson was the fastest player at the Combine. Merely being the fastest player at the Combine is no guarantee of a player being chosen in the first round, but a strong performance at the Combine is sure to get NFL teams taking a second look at a player’s tape, and there are good things to see on Robinson’s tape.

Robinson told reporters at the Combine that he decided to enter the draft early even though the NFL draft advisory board told him he wouldn’t go in the first three rounds of the draft. But NFL Network’s Mike Mayock said on Path to the Draft that he sees Robinson going a lot higher than that.

“He’s a 200-pound corner with long arms who ran a 4.3 at the Combine, and on top of the 4.3, he tested at the highest level in every measurable,” Mayock said. “That’s what the Combine’s for. We go back to the tape and see if it’s really 4.3 speed. I went back and watched two more tapes of him against Southern Miss and BYU, and the only criticism is that he goes flat-footed at the transition point. I know that because I used to do that. And what happens is when you go flat-footed trying to come out of that transition on a vertical is difficult. When you look at his numbers, 10 interceptions in three years, he will tackle, great transition out of pedal, driving on the football, I don’t think there’s any way this kid is getting out of the first round.”

That was a lucrative Combine showing for Robinson.

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Maybe someone takes him before us sending a more valuable pick our way.

Stephen Hill and Josh Robinson are HYPE, along with Kendall Reyes, but you never know how these teams grade players, it is almot NEVER similar to nfldraftscout, which is the site I think is the most accurrate. Tyson Alualu was a top ten pick, from memory he was the 44th best player. Jacksonville saw something. One frustrating thing for me personally is that every year since we have been doing this, we fall for an offensive lineman that fits the range when the Steelers pick. But what happens as the process evolves, that stock goes up. What it means is that our line of thinking is similar to the NFL teams looking at these players, sure we are way off at times, but are more right than we are wrong, more than I can say about the Anal Epicenter  in Bristol, CT.

2008- Brandon ALbert
2009- Alex Mack
2010- Mike Iupati
2011- James Carpenter
2012- Cordy Glenn

Do you guys see this pattern? Frustraning no?   

What is the concensus on Fletcher Cox.  I think he is a great player but to me he is a five technique and we have drafted two of those with 2 of our last three #1 picks.  I know the strategy is best player available but if we have a chance to get Poe, Hightower or Glenn.  I would think that would be the better pick.  I am seeing Fletcher Cox going to us in a lot of Mock Drafts lately.

What is the concensus on Fletcher Cox. 

I also watched Mike Mayock and his take is that he got over-shadowed and under-hyped. His combine numbers speak for themself. Not to beat a dead horse but I have been pushing this kid since 2011, nobody really listend to my rants. 4 time SEC Defensive Lineman of the week, which means he shows more on tape than Brockers. In fact he is stronger, faster, and more productinve than Brockers. Another thing, teams HAD to key on him, best Defensive player on a team that went 2-6 in Conferrence. The SEC coaches are the ones who voted him 4 time DL of the week.  I got two right, I told you guys Reyes and Cox.... but I also get some wrong, at least I admit to it, unlike the Bungh0les on that Sports Enterainment Network.

The problem is math with Mike Mayock, If you listed all his "I don't see him getting out of the first round" guys, there would be 40 players, somebody has to be off that list.  But as good as Mayock is, NFL Network has to sell his product and he has to get excited about players to promote interest in the draft. Look the draft is 50 days away, they HAVE to build it up, it is their meal ticket to the advertisers for the next 7+ weeks.

Huge Pro days coming up, Justin Blackmon better run better, we want him in the top 15 to push someone back. I agree with most however on David DeCastro, no way the Cowboys pass on him. CB Depth in this draft is good, but DeCastro starts in week one and never looks back, can you say that about the CB's available at 14, probably not.

Along with a few other schools today - Arkansas has its pro day - looking forward to the numbers and report on Jerry Franklin ILB.  A day 3 kid that may be able to help - we'll see.

enjoy,

bb

bb,

what do you think of that 3rd round pick by Walter Football, I think it goes bloats. Bernard Pierce is a good back, but not in round 3. You can find a back in any round. Arian Foster just inked a HUGE 5 year deal, a former 7th rounder. I like Franklin as help, not sure Sly has what it takes to play zone, good core ST guy though. The guy I really like and I hope pneumonia helped us.... is Bobby Wagner. Rumor by Pat Kirwon has it that NE interested in Wallace and giving up 31.. that would suck dog crap, however if we took the 24 and 31 and got DeCastro, I could live with it.

Did you see my post of OL we had "locked" into our mocks, then pool, they climb the boards,, pretty annoying huh?

nyb