No disagreement with anything you said, Right now he is pretty painful to watch offensively. He is one of those raw players offensively. He only has one quailty that you can say he is good at offensively, and that is finishing at the rim. He is able to use his body pretty well and his athleticism allows he to finish over the bigs. Other than that, he leaves lot to be desired.
Right now he isn't good enough to get 30+ minutes a night. Right now it is because Rondo is out and it is certainly hurting the Celtics right now. Bradley does need the minutes to improve however. He is one of many guys who should have stayed another year in college, because he needs the minutes to improve. Bradley will not become a decent offensive player if the Celtics do not have patience with him. I think he is another 2 years away from being a starting caliber player on any team, and likely 3 or 4 away of becoming a pretty decent starting PG.
If the Celtics are not patient with Bradley and lose faith in him this year or the next, then he will not become a top 15 or top 20 PG. He will end up being a guy that had potential but got lost in the shuffle. If they continue to give him the time then he will become a solid NBA player because his offense will become decent enough, and his defense will only continue to get better and will thrive on slowing down other PG's.
Okay skins8... and Lakers dude. Points taken, and I'm sure the Lakers can appreciate such a situation with Darius Morris being in basically the same predicament. I watch both these guys handle the ball and bring it up court and they are smooth. Its the half court game thats causing them issues. Seems like teams rotate a double team at them when they are trying to decide what to do (pas, shoot,find a pick). And in both these offenses, they run clock and seems like what happens is they really pressure these guys when theres less than 10 seconds on the shot clock. And I'll even counter my opinion and admit the Celtics were very hasty with Chauncey Billups. Look at him now, he had a championship in Detroit, came close with the Nuggets and is on a nice run with the Clippers. Had a huge game last night by the way. I think Bradley needs to relax, and keep the ball moving and hopefully he settles in. And one thing you guys are RIGHT about is playing the 1 is all about confidence. So definitely like to see him improve offensively, and time will tell. What I'm thinking is alot of these rookies will look better after the all-star break....
Bradley will be fine. For a player to develop they need minutes. He is getting his chance and doing a decent job and he will only get better. Energy. Word.
rock i think bradley has a chance but it depends on how fast he can mature and refine his skill set doc and danny arent really well known for developing talent
LakersUSCbam! almost to funny your rants, about Celts loss at home, after being owned by Indiana Pacers. Get your homer head out of the sand, The Lakers are in a leaky boat.blub and its sinking fast. Expect familiar old Kobe to soon begin complaining about everyone except his declining game. Remember the road will soon separate the pretenders from the contenders and your toughest games are ahead. No doubt , your coaches are already, having nightmares with thoughts of playing: The Thunder, The Blazers, The Nuggets, The Mav's( lest ya forget swept you last season) even the revitalized Spurs are playing better. By the way, currently the Clippers are the best in the west..so good luck loser..wiith your first round exit.. Go Big Green!!!
Hmmmmm.... I will agree on the first 2 rockdacrotch-rocket!! I think Tony Allen never really had a chance to be good with the Celtics. He had flashes but to be honest, I hated that dude when he was with Boston. Not disputing that they brought Rondo and Perkins along well, but Tony Allen was just a bench player for them, so of course he wont get the same attention. I will admit this too, I thought Allen sucked, and since he's been in Memphis he has totally reversed my opinion. I gotta hand it to any of these coaches that have been patient enough with young players with raw skill to not give up. I'm sure coaches get the same urges as some fans get when they watch a guy with talent, well..... underachieve I guess. Rondo has made huge strides in some respects and in other ways is still taking baby-steps. His free-throw % is improving ever so slightly, but the guy has hands like E.T., so whatcha gonna do??? His jump shot has improved 10 fold, going from non-existent to having a decent arsenal of floaters and 12-15 footers. He even knocks down the occasional 3 PT shot!! They groomed Perk for their needs, but he has been a bust for OKC. Sad but True. BTW, Did anyone see that dunk Blake Griffin unloaded on him last night??? Holyyyyy ba-jeeeeezus, talk about posterized, that was INSANE!!!!
Ya see Rockdacrotch.... this is what these forums are all about. Lively debate.... opinions with some stats and evidence to support!! Not, as someone else on this thread said, "blind optimism"!!! I had a Giants fan go insane on me cuz I suggested that Kyle Williams OT fumble was more his own fault than it was the defenders intent. Personally I think the Giants are a great team and they force a lot of turnovers. But I've seen every replay, angle and camera still of that fumble and it looked to me that it was more a result of timing than anything. The Giants defender made a great effort grabbing Williams' arm, but it looked like he was starting to lose control while switching hands and having his arm hit simultaneously. So it did technically cause the fumble!! And believe me, I understand why some, especially a Giants homer, would disagree. But theres really no way to confirm it.
But lemme offer this. Every Pats fan in the world will defend that the "tuck-rule" call that went in the Patriots favor way back when, was a great call and they would never be convinced otherwise. I'm a pats fan and since it resulted in a Superbowl I wont argue, but I have to lean more toward them getting a huge break. Cuz everyone that opposed that call saw that Brady had already completed the motion of the pump fake, and was stripped after the fact. It happened so quick, but my unbiased eyes saw him pump fake, then regather and then had the ball knocked out. Still think they are a great team with one of the most amazing stories of a guy like Brady becoming an Elite, future hall of famer and wouldnt dream of trying to discount any of his or the teams accomplishments nor would I do that to the Giants. Just crazy how some fans can defend something so controversial. When it comes down to it, we are all just offering up our opinions and perspectives. Much respect to Rockdacrotch,Lakersuscbam and skins8. Hate to admit it but you guys have changed my mind on a couple topics, and put out some solid posts!!! word
Agreed schloncha, some good healthy exchanges here. No1 has to be an idiot for disagreeing with the last guys post!! And I cant believe you brought up the Brady pump fake. lol!!! Me and my brother fought about that for like 2 months!! I jumped on the Patriots bandwagon, I'll confess and it was awesome to see them win and have it be in such nailbiting fashion. I literally said verbatum, that by definition of the tuck rule, they may have given us a half second, benefit of the doubt!! My brother insisted that every1 in the world would concede that it was a text book call. Honestly it was so close, it could have gone either way.... but I thought they got a friendly call in a HIGHLY controversial situation. And if it went the other way, I might even be saying the same thing about the other team.
As for the Giants/ 49ers game, the 1st muff was obviously his fault. hahaha.... MUFF! The second one was so disputable I dont know if I can pick a side. But I guess thats the point. Some people say he fumbled, others say it was straight up stripped. So many variables. The defender made a great effort, but from the looks of things he was trying to get a hand on Williams at the very least. Bad weather, rookie returner, overtime.... so much to consider but I just watched the replay on youtube about 20 times. The announcer did point out that Wiliams was adjusting the ball and it wasnt exactly secure when he got hit. No correct answer if you ask me. The ball came out, the Giants won. Wouldnt bother me either way if I was a NY fan cuz they r in the Superbowl!! Good Luck to both teams!
I think the Patriots will pull it off. BUT, if NY beats NE again though, that means the Brady Bunch are E. Coli's b*tches. I'm SO glad Boston didn't blow the game again last night. Time for a big win against Toronto to get above .500. After that there's no looking back. Word.
It's about time. Though he's glory days are most likely behind him. A win is a win but it was an ugly win against the Cavaliers last night and that doesn't give me much hope about the rest of the season. But who knows, the Celtics could get really hot and win it all!
Tony Allen could have been something special if he didnt tear his acl in the beginning of his career, he literally spent about 3 seasons just getting his mind to trust his ankle thus wasting most of his prime
Man, I swear every time I criticise a player he shuts me right up. As we all know I have not been Avery Bradley's biggest fan as the Celtics Point guard!! I just checked the game a few times but I think in the first half he had like 8 points on 4 of 5 shooting!! Thus putting my size 11 foot in my size 12 mouth!!
Not that I wanted the lil feller to fail.... was quite the contrary actually!! I am glad to see him get some footing. He was confident, made some good decisions and more importantly only had 1 turnover. Unfortunately, he didnt do much in the 2nd half. Think he only took 1 shot and he only had 1 assist on the night. But the fact that he is not making mistakes is still a step forward.
I think, like you guys said, once he gets some more confidence we'll see him have more contributions on a regular basis. So good for him, and hopefully he can keep progressing cuz the Celtics need the help if they are gonna make a run before the All Star break!
The team is starting to pull together in the absence of the general. We can afford to let Rondo rest a bit more. When its all said and done, when we've got Rondo and Dooling back in the lineup it'll be time for us to turn on the nitro. EVERYBODY is asleep on Boston. They are calling us pretenders. They are omitting the biggest thing we've got going for us - HEART. Paul Pierce is playing some of the best basketball I've seen this year. We are 6-1 in our last 7 games, above .500 and something tells me we won't be dipping back below isht-level again this year. Get ready for something special, boys. We are on our way to shocking the world. Word.
Tonight is vengeance time, boys! Enjoy watching the difference between the XMas Celtics and the Celtics of 2/3/12. Pierce is going to do a dirty dance on Melo tonight in a real way. Word.
