Pac-12 Will Dominate College Football in 2012

How dumb do you have to be to overlook SC? Trap game? really? If that is how Oregon saw them then they flat out deserved to lose.... SC was on fire going into that game and if Oregon overlooked them that that shows the arrogance and ignorance of the entire coaching staff and players period.

wazzufan is exactly right. I got into a discussion with a couple of Oregon fans who claimed that USC was a trap game and my response was basically the same as yours. Their logic was that USC was a trap game because it came after the Stanford game and before the rivalry game with Oregon St.

Going into the USC game, Oregon was ranked highly enough that a win over USC and a win vs. Oregon St. could have put them into the NCG, USC was also on a serious roll, were sitting in 1st place in the South and were showing ourselves to be a formidable opponent. If Oregon overlooked USC, then they deserved to be "trapped".

If there was a "trap game" for either team, it would have been for USC playing UCLA the week after the Oregon game. After all, beating Oregon at Autzen was a very emotional and taxing game for the Trojans and one could understand a bit of a letdown going in against a UCLA team with a lame-duck coach and trying to salvage their season. Well, we all saw how USC handled our "trap game".

To say that USC was a trap game because Oregon overlooked them to focus on the upcoming Civil War game is ridiculous. The Beavers were playing pitiful last year and were going to get rolled by the Duckies. NOBODY takes USC for granted. USC's opponents have that game circled at the start of the year and are UP for that meeting. NOT overlooking it for an upcoming game against a struggling team of freshmen with 3-7 (at that time) record.

It is a lame excuse, but that is an excuse used at Phil Knight University

lol

If anybody said USC was a trap game, that's called trolling.


I guess there are Duck trolls too.  (if what you say is true- have to do some back-reading)

Duck trolls? Perish the thought.....

I havent really heard of many things about Oklahoma or Missouri. I am also wondering about the SEC other than Bama and the LSU cubs. Does anyone know whats going on with these other teams and how they are looking?
 

If Oregon "OVERLOOKED" USC 'cause they were looking ahead to Oregon St.?? Are you serious?
That would be like Michigan overlooking Ohio St cause they played Mich St next. Fire the coach and
bench the players.... nuff said.

SEC other than Bama and the LSU cubs. Does anyone know whats going on with these other teams and how they are looking?


IMO, UGA is the team to beat in the SEC East with a very strong defense and excellent QB in Aaron Murray.  USCe will also be very good with a good defense, good QB, and a great RB depending on how well he recovers froom injury.  UF is always dangerous with a lot of talent but I don't think this will be there year.  UT will be dangerous with a future NFL QB and still very good talent in Knox.

Arkansas is potentially very good with a QB that could be drafted ahead of Barkley if he has a good year and the return of another great RB in Knile Davis (again depending on how he recovers from injury).  Auburn should ve good and a threat to beat anybody.

hard to know how the newcomers will do but I expect TAMU to struggle a bit in the SEc West.

You say UT has a stud QB. Im not sure who that is and do they have anything around him to help him out? Also i have to disagree that Ark's QB will go ahead of Barkley even if he has a great year. Example #1- Luck vs Griffin III. Griffin had the better year by far and won the Heisman. Luck drafted #1 overall. I think your right about SoCar if Lattimore is 100%. They will be tough with him running the ball. He is a flat out beast and if they were to step up their recievers and defense even more than the beginning of last year then look out.

have to disagree that Ark's QB will go ahead of Barkley even if he has a great year. Example #1- Luck vs Griffin III. Griffin had the better year by far and won the Heisman. Luck drafted #1 overall.


Just what I read from an expert, so called.    The NFL is looking at specific skills such as accuracy, speed of delivery, abiity to read defenses, and physical mobility, etc.   I like a QB that at least has some mobility to go with his other skills and that's why I think Wilson is harder to defend than Barkley.  Luck had the full package of great size, accuracy, mobility, toughness, etc.  Doesn't mean he'll be a better NFL QB than RG III but he seems to have all the qualities you want in an NFL QB.  Drafting QBs is a bit of a crap shoot.

QB than RG III but he seems to have all the qualities you want in an NFL QB. 

Just ask the Raiders.  But then again, I coulda told them we had a beter NFl QB (Matt Flyn) on the LSU team than Jamarcus.

Mettenberger has an arm like Jamarcus and throws deep accurately and easily.  Plus he seems to be able to read defenses (something Jamarcus could never do) so I think he could be a really good one if he's good under pressure.

Fight on, mizzou is solid but the defense is suspect. The secondary might be a strength which could help them against Georgia and South Carolina. However, a slate that tough will doom them in terms of winning the east with Georgia getting the easy slate. Oklahoma should win the 12, but that isn't garaunteed with wvu in Morgantown, tcu in ft worth, and Texas is a sleeper. If they beat that slate, they could compete with anyone.

That is the thing I don't get about Miles, a ton of LSU fans think Flynn was better and he did lead them to a title, but why does it always seem Miles does not play the right quarterback until he is forced to? LSU is a NC quality team every year except for the QB. Not saying LSU would've won last year but playing Jefferson put you guys in a huge hole.

about Miles, a ton of LSU fans think Flynn was better and he did lead them to a title, but why does it always seem Miles does not play the right quarterback until he is forced to? LSU is a NC quality team every year except for the QB. Not saying LSU would've won last year but playing Jefferson put you guys in a huge hole.


Great question.  I have 2 theories:

1. Miles goes with the more popular QB among the players
2. Miles plays the QB he likes better

I had a running 3 year argument with my college roommate over which was better jamarcus or Flynn.  When Jamarc was 1st player selected in the NFL draft, he thought he had won the argument but I said I still think Flynnn will be a better NFL QB which really flustered him.  Now it's clear that Flynn is a better NFl QB.

I watched Mettenberger in the Spring Game 2 years ago and it was obvious his arm was much much much much better than JJ or Lee.  He also changed some plays and read the defense correctly which JJ was not skilled at.  He will be a drastic improvement.  I still want to see how he reacts under pressure from the nations best defenses such as USCe, UF, Bama....that's where he'll prove his mettle.

Mettenberger is potentially a 1st round pick in the next draft according to NFL experts I've read....he's the Wild Man WIld Card of college QBs.

Tall Tiger,

     That explains why he starts certain qb's over other's, but what about his reluctance to pull a guy. Sometimes, the guy can just be having a bad game. As great as Matt Barkley has been, if he has a game where he is playing like JJ did in the NCG, I would epect Kiffin to sit him for at least 2 or 3 series just for a change of pace or to let him gather himself a bit. Seemed odd that he just stuck with JJ when it was obvious that he was deer in headlights.

Makes sense, but if I were a LSU fan I would want to find out which QB he doesn't like and root for him, seems like when that happens it seems you guys get a title. And I'm not sure you could have a fair argument with Russell and Flynn back in the day. Russell seemed lazy but he went to one of the worst organizations in football when it comes to discipline or structure. Flynn went to the best organization when it comes to getting the most out a quarterbacks talent. And again he is going to another great situation in Seattle where he will not be asked to carry the team and only throw shorter more accurate throws.

As great as Matt Barkley has been, if he has a game where he is playing like JJ did in the NCG, I would epect Kiffin to sit him for at least 2 or 3 series just for a change of pace or to let him gather himself a bit. Seemed odd that he just stuck with JJ when it was obvious that he was deer in headlights

Yeah that was very strange and believe me, Tiger nation was baffled and angry.  My brother's theory is that JJ caught Miles in an uncompromising situation and was blackmailing him.  Can Miles learn from his mistakes...I hope so.  Another theory is that Miles just has that conservative Bo Shembechler streak and is not open to change.  This year will tell a lote about Miles ability to open up his offense and use the talents he does have on the team.

he is going to another great situation in Seattle where he will not be asked to carry the team and only throw shorter more accurate throws.

I'm optimistic about Flynn in Seattle....where I am right now btw  He's not the gregarious leader....nothing like Tebow.  But he's a thinker/analyzer and has enough mobility to win a few games with his feet.  Here's a trivia question...what QB has the most single game passing yards in the franchise history?  Answer: It's Flynn in his only start at Green Bay.

Yeah that was very strange and believe me, Tiger nation was baffled and angry.  My brother's theory is that JJ caught Miles in an uncompromising situation and was blackmailing him.  Can Miles learn from his mistakes...I hope so.  Another theory is that Miles just has that conservative Bo Shembechler streak and is not open to change.  This year will tell a lote about Miles ability to open up his offense and use the talents he does have on the team.

Miles is a different kinda cat, no doubt about it. I don't know if I'd buy the blackmail theory (Miles just doesn't strike me as the type to get caught up in compromising situations).

However, he is called "The Mad Hatter" for a reason and most of his "unconventional style" seems to work out quite well for LSU (hard to argue when the coach is 1-1 in NCG games). However, like a coach who likes to call a lot of gadget plays, when they work, the are spectacular and you look like a genius. When they don't, you look like an idiot and fans start questioning your sanity.

I think that if Mettenberger is at least close to as good as advertised and Miles let's the offense play to his strengths, LSU is going to be an extremely scary team this season. They will be scary anyway, but with an offense that actually understands the concept of a forward pass, it would take a exceptional effort from a great team to beat them.